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Posted by web78377 - on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 @ 04:52:22 UTC
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All of these exchanges were over this horrifying show - the kids loved it, but the adults in the building cringed as they passed by on their way to the cafeteria - see it here
http://inslide.com/respect/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=31

From: Mahaffy, Tim
Sent: Tue 4/10/2007 1:45 PM
To: Warwak, Dave
Subject: project
Dave,
Please see me about the display.  I'm getting very uncomfortable with the message it is sending.  I really need any reference to eating animals (meat) out of your project.  It is not the positive message that I though it was going to be.
I'm very sorry if I misunderstood where you were going with this.
Thanks,
Tim

Dr. Tim Mahaffy
Fox River Grove Middle School
401 Orchard Street
Fox River Grove, IL  60021
PH:  847-462-2324
Fax: 847-516-5104


3 minutes earlier he sent this picture - a sort of religous joke - e-mail out to the whole staff mocking my project go ahead and eat animals

Insult to jury

"Unless the follow up activities involved why we should or should not eat animals.....don't need to stop them.  But that is your choice." Mahaffy

>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Mahaffy, Tim 
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 BC 2:34 PM
> To: Warwak, Dave
> Subject: RE: meeting
>
> Dave,
>
> I have not had the time to read the book or to watch the video.  I
> told you before not to give me the book.  I accepted it and sincerely
> appreciated it.  I may read it, but do I want a meeting in a week
> based upon what I think....no.  If I get to the materials and I feel
> as passionate about it as you do, then I will seek you out to have a
> conversation.  If I don't have the same passion as you and do not want
> to discuss it or choose not to read/view them, then I request that you
> respect my decision as I do your opinions.
>
>Tim 
>
> _____________________________________________
> From: Warwak, Dave 
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 BC 12:31 PM
> To: Mahaffy, Tim
> Subject: RE: meeting
> Importance: High
>
> Hi Tim,
> All I am asking is that you look at some information that I am saying
> is very important. What could be more important than our kids health?
> Not looking for a debate or immediate commitment, only that you look
> at the things I asked you to look at. I used the language I used
> because this is that important of an issue - at least I think so. I
> just want you to understand what is going on and I know you will feel
> differently when you do. I respectfully ask that you look at the
> information and let me know what you think - can we sit down and talk
> about this some time next week?
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Mahaffy, Tim 
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 BC 11:02 AM
> To: Warwak, Dave
> Subject: RE: meeting
>
> Dave,
>
> I'm not going to commit to any intentions on the "future of our kids".
> I am not going to get into this debate with you.  Please don't go
> there with me and I respectfully request that you not pressure me to
> feel guilty about the extremely grave and serious problems.
>
> I do not currently have any plans to become the model school that you
> think we need to be when it comes to diet.  I am working on the
> million other mandates in education.  If this one comes through...I
> will work on that also.
>
> Tim
>
> _____________________________________________
> From: Warwak, Dave 
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 BC 10:59 AM
> To: Mahaffy, Tim
> Subject: RE: meeting
> Importance: High
>
> Hi Tim,
> I would like to hear your thoughts/intentions in regards to the data
> in relationship to our kids' future and our school's
> involvement/responsibility with these extremely grave and serious
> problems.
> Thanks,
> Dave 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mahaffy, Tim 
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 BC 10:48 AM
> To: Warwak, Dave
> Subject: RE: meeting
>
> No I haven't other than the initial glance at the stats.
>
> What would we be meeting about?
>
> _____________________________________________
> From: Warwak, Dave 
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 BC 10:40 AM
> To: Mahaffy, Tim 
> Subject: meeting
> Importance: High
>
> Hi Tim,
> Hopefully, you have looked at the stats and watched the video,
> maybe perused the book.
> Can we set a time next week to meet?
> Thanks,
> Dave

 

 



>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Mahaffy, Tim
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 BC 10:06 AM
> To: Warwak, Dave 
> Subject: RE: stats and such
>
> Thanks for the bagel and coffee...but message to long for me to read.
>
> _____________________________________________
> From: Warwak, Dave 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 BC 9:54 AM
> To: FRG MS Staff
> Subject: stats and such
>
> Bagels and coffee in the teachers' lounge and some alarming stats
> below from a great book I recommend everyone reads.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----

> This is a reprint of REALITIES 1989, which are facts excerpted from
> the
> Pulitzer Prize nominated "Diet for a New America" by John Robbins.
> Mr. Robbins is the heir of the Baskin Robbins fortune; and instead
> of following in his dad's footsteps, he did some research on how the
> American flesh eating diet affects everyone's lives.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mahaffy, Tim
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 BC 2:04 PM
To: Warwak, Dave
Subject: RE: Concern

You are correct...you don't get it.  I don't shoe things under the carpet and I do not appreciate it.  I will take care of the posters.  You are missing the point.



From: Warwak, Dave 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 BC 1:54 PM
To: Mahaffy, Tim
Subject: RE: Concern

Sorry you feel that way. I never told anyone to be a vegetarian. I think students should have all the facts and make their own decisions. I thought we want students to be informed decision makers. I thought nutrition was taught in school. I respect life and I am taking responsibility (that is the correlation). This started because of students at our school, our students, are killing animals for fun - killing birds and squirrels - anything that moves. I thought I would confront the issue instead of shoeing it under the carpet for fear of phone calls. I am not sure which posters you are referring to. I can take them all down if you wish.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mahaffy, Tim 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 BC 12:44 PM
To: Warwak, Dave
Subject: Concern
Importance: High

Dave,
 
This Peep project seems to be turning into a PETA advertisement.  I don't like tying in the schools moto of respect and responsibility to a vegetarian diet.  I don't see the correlation and I don't want to be fielding phone calls that we are pushing an agenda on the students or other staff that is not the opinion of the district.  I think a couple of the posters take this too far and maybe some of the display.  Please becareful not to have this back fire.
 
The notion that non-vegetarians support cruelty to animals....even if true.....I'm not using our school as a soap box for this opinion.  Please remove the posters that indicate that students should not eat meat.  I'm sorry if I led you to believe that I supported promoting being a vegetarian, and that not being one, was bad.
 
Thanks

Tim

Dr. Tim Mahaffy
Fox River Grove Middle School
401 Orchard Street
Fox River Grove, IL  60021
PH:  847-462-2324
Fax: 847-516-5104

 

This is the info that was too long to read (which I know is very serious indeed) but change means work
In this example Heriditary Ignorance continues by avoidance, delay, denial, anger, disconnect - do not back down from these people - eventually, you will break through!


 
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